FR for 11/07/2008 – Nightgame
Continuing on from daygame, my aim for nightgame was to go out and test out Juggler Method. I had the additional challenge in that I still have pretty bad AA at night, so I decided that my goal for the night would simply be to open sets and continue a regular conversation.
After waiting around for Funlife for an hour, we finally made it up to the bar area. Met up with James Bond, who was already busy chatting up a cute (in a floral dress sorta way) girl outside the bar. Funlife grabbed a chick passing by and took her inside while I let the other guys know where we were.
It was LOUD inside. Like “can’t hear myself think” loud.
I found myself with AA. Ordered a coke, chilled back a bit, met James Bond’s set, watched him tear up the dancefloor (dude, every chick in the bar was eyeraping you at the end of that) and decided to bounce to another quieter venue.
Second venue. AA again, damn. Opened a set with Funlife – he took it over… he’s one loud mofo with really good vocal projection. We get told by the girls to leave.
I wander over to where James is, we meet a bunch of guys out celebrating and then we open a 2-set, blonde and brunette. JB holds the brunette, but after the first minute the blonde wanders off to chat on her cell phone. Oh well, I head to the other side of the bar to give JB isolation. Funlife is in set. I chode around for a bit and grab a drink of water. At this point Funlife and I had been blown out by every set in the bar, so we decide to leave.
We text JB and head next door. Walk into the bar, and there’s a 3-set there. I consider this my only real set of the night, so:
HBNRB
Set: I open with ‘hi’. HBNRB (NotReallyBlonde) lights up. HBBrunette looks like she’s drunk already and HBScaryAsian is playing mother of the group for the night. I get really quick intros (gotta learn to remember girls name) and banter a bit with HBNRB. I see Funlife wandering around so I grab him and pull him into set. We talk a bit, then HBBrunette and HBScaryAsian go out for a smoke. I ask the logistical question: “how do you guys know each other”. I get told they went to high school together or something, and I assumed they were all close (this was NOT true it turns out). Funlife and I talk to HBNRB for a while. At some point JB arrives and I end up talking alone with HBNRB. It was really funny. Her friends would periodically come and say “we’re going to smoke, we’re going to the ATM” and ask to take her everytime… but she stuck around. We talked about a large range of topics. I didn’t run frames, routines or anything – just banter and I kept the Juggler Method structure in the back of my mind. JB comes over at one point and asks “Have you seen kino?”. I took me a few seconds to register and I started kinoing more, but it was kinda awkward because I hadn’t been doing it from the start. I got both deep and wide rapport with HBNRB, and in most of the conversational pauses she picked up the conversation. I tried to SOI a few times during the interaction, but it just came out wrong. Most of them were some derivate of “you’re cool” or “I like you”. I think the only “sexy” I got in was telling her that her girls guns were sexy.
Towards the end of the night more of her “friends” arrived. 2 guys and 2 girls. Turns out HBNRB didn’t really know them that well, but I figured that I should at least *look* social so I engaged them in conversation. One of the guys was a boring fuck who just stared at his shotglass. The other was a lawyer so we hi-fived over how cool lawyers are (several of my good friends are lawyers) and about teasing girls. I talked a bit with the other 2 girls too. #-closed HBNRB at some point (don’t remember when). Near the end of the night, some weird creepy dude came in and started hitting on HBNRB. I let it run on for about 30 seconds, waiting for him to address the group rather than just HBNRB… he didn’t. At that point I saw the look of “this is fucking creepy” on HBNRB’s face and took her outside. We talked a bit, then I realised I had to go (parking) so I told her that I had to head off but I wanted to make sure she was back with her friends first.
We found her friends, I told HBScaryAsian about the creepy dude and she looked appreciative. Made sure the girls were alright then headed out.
I exchanged a couple of texts with HBNRB yesterday and today, let’s see how it goes.
Good: Opened. Approached. Went natural/direct. Did not fall back into routines. Held the conversation for over an hour.
Bad: Meaningless kino. Not SOI’ing properly. Some inappropriate teasing (about girls being overly American). I tried to run some old-school roleplay at one point, and it just came out retarded. Tim’s bf-gf roleplays are much better.
Loss of set: I don’t think I’ve lost it yet, but the kino + bad SOI issue may be the lynch point.
Improvements: More kino. I heard Trackstar talk about EC’s idea of “near molestation” kino, so I would have done that. Better SOIs that include the word sexy, and that set the blame frame more. Win over her female friends more (the original 2, not the 2 that came later). Perhaps an attempt to bounce for a late-night meal (though my own logistics didn’t allow for that).
Thoughts
I think in terms of my goal of just going out and approaching and talking, I did pretty well. Obviously I’m still reading up on the Juggler Method, and probably after going through his archive today/tomorrow I’ll have the basic structure down, and then it’s just a matter of going out and practicing it. As I said in my daygame report, I want to eventually layer NLP skills and conversational frames on top of the basic Juggler system, the end result being dynamite.
Major thanks to Funlife and JB for heading out with me, and for being there to share in the fun. Oh yeah, I had FUN this time that I went out, unlike the last couple of times where it felt like I was dragging myself from bar to bar.
I’m pretty sure the AA issue will resolve itself over the next couple of weeks as I do more approaches and get more comfortable with nightgame venues.
I still have issues when it comes to talking to guys though – opening girls then finding them with guys seems OK at the moment, but opening girls already together with guys is harder for me.
- whim
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I’m curious about the dance floor tactic. What did James Bond do?
I also think that you’re learning more than you’re fixing. Try to stop learning new techniques and concentrate on your sticking points. You have 6 SPs and you’ve only fixed 3!!! Always have 3 SPs in your mind when you sarge and try to fix them if the opportunity arises. A good idea is to count the times you corrected the SP: “working on comfort 2/5 OK”. Once you arrive at 5/5 you move the SP to RESOLVED.
I found a good game that gets rid of AA: http://puroadmap.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/fr-good-game-for-clubs/ . Try it.
That’s because I haven’t updated by SP list lately
JB’s dance floor tactic is pretty simple, though you have to understand the context. We were in a bar with a live band and NO ONE else was dancing. He went up to the edge of the dance area, started dancing and some girl basically invited him to dance. Because he and that girl were the only 2 people dancing, EVERYONE was looking at them.
- whim