FR for 11/15/2008 – Nightgame
Rolled out with Pepe, MJ, J and Trackstar.
We hit up one venue near downtown, and stayed there for most of the night. Most of the sets were a huge jumble, and a lot of the night was spent bouncing between different groups, so there won’t be any great detail here.
MJ opened one set of medical residents. I eventually ended up talking with some of that group for a while, trying to get MJ isolated with the girl he was talking to. Trackstar opened a 9-set of girls seated in a booth. Pepe and J opened other groups. At some point I opened and bantered with a 4-set of girls near the dance floor for a while. They were boring-as-hell, so I left and ended back with MJ’s group for a while. Then they disappeared and we ended up in the 9-set that Trackstar had spoken to earlier and got to know most of them. The rest of the time in the venue was spent either dancing/flirting with them or opening other sets. I also went direct on a girl seated by herself which was pretty cool.
At some point we bounced neighbourhoods for a while – but it was late, and everyone was pretty tired by then. I opened 2 different sets of Marina-esque girls direct but neither hooked. Trackstar mentioned that different venues merit different approach strategies, and in more snobby venues it’s necessary to contribute a bit more to the interaction beyond opening and transitioning. We also spotted one lone Asian PUA tearing up the venue – opening multiple girls, making out with a couple, then bouncing to others… if you’re reading this, respect bro.
Ended the night having a long debrief and chat with Pepe, MJ & J.
Observations
- Don’t forget to say “I thought you/you guys were cool/cute so I wanted to come over and say hi”.
- I’ve become pretty comfortable in nightgame venues.
- Opening doesn’t seem to be that much of a problem now – but I still want to be opening more. I’ll still catch myself seeing girls, and then considering how to open them/waiting for logistics rather than just going over to open them.
- Now is a good time to pull out my old routine stack and revamp it into a module/remedy format (credit: Kid44). It will be invaluable for nightgame, and this is my new main leverage point.
- I’m getting more comfortable with the Juggler Method structure, but I still need work on: 1) open ended questions/statements, and 2) SOIs. To get these, I should write a default list of examples and run through them a couple of times then take them out into the field.
- Other guys. I had 3 different frat-boy-types try to give me shit throughout the night – ironically, most of the time I was just standing around talking to Pepe/J/MJ. Just the usual they-bump-into-you-and-then-try-to-start-something deal. Pepe suggested that it came from 1) me having solid/still body language, and 2) the way I dress (usually a little flashier than most other people). I also noticed that Trackstar does not have this problem at all – which we think is related to his zero-intent when he approaches a group.
- I’ve realised that right now, for me, going out just for the sake of going out and “doing” nightgame is pointless. I need some direction/objective in mind, which is where my routine stack and more focus on vibing via Juggler Method will come in.
- whim
