Day 18/30 post-Bootcamp
I’m a bit annoyed at myself again. Here’s why.
The Night
Met up with DP at my apartment at around 11. We chatted a bit, talked about the value of pregaming then headed out.
First bar, went direct on a girl by herself. Met some of Trackstar’s friends, talked with them for a bit. Jtex, Infiltrator, K all showed up, looks like we’re rolling big tonight.
Second bar. Opened two girls to get my mouth moving. Shot the shit with Jtex. Tried to wing DP’s set but he kinda brushed me off.
Third bar. Bought DP a drink. Opened a Latina girl – interesting note here. Her friends asked me to take a photo for them, and I didn’t really think anything of it at the time, but as soon as I did, their perception of my social value dropped and the girl I had been talking to pretty much said “thanks, we’re gonna go dance now”. Choded for a bit, missed the opportunity to talk to an Asian girl standing by herself. DP pulls me into his set. I do mid-level molestation kino on the girl closest to me, and she is loving it. I should probably have escalated faster but their friend came to pull them both away pretty soon after. Go back into the bar, open two white girls by the bar. For some reason, I had a Pepe moment and decided to start saying ridiculous shit. It actually went over well with the girl, and coupled with aggressive kino she actually enjoyed it. DP came in at some point but I had said way way too much stupid stuff to take the set towards comfort, so I left.
Met up with Trackstar and hit up bar 1 again. He got into set, intro’d me but I totally missed his winging cue (more on this below). Opened a set nearby. Open. Hi. Talk talk talk. Stale. Stale. Stale. Left. Opened another set. Hi. Talk talk talk. Stale. Stale. Stale. Left. Went to bar two again. Saw DP talking to some dudes, said hi to him. He pulled me into a 2-set.
This was an interesting set. I went light kino as that was what DP was doing, and even though the girls were cute they aren’t my usual type by a long shot. Lots of talk talk talk and light humour. Girl subtly brings up her BF, so I kept easy on the kino, as I was there to occupy her while DP worked his girl. Talk talk talk. Talk talk talk.
Eventually the BF of the girl I was talking to came by and took them both away. DP felt that he could have pulled his girl that night, but they were already out the door by the time he realised that.
We debriefed at a nearby late-night food place, and I talked for Trackstar for a bit on a street corner near my place on the way back home. As I was heading towards my apartment two 6ish Asian girls said Hi to me. I said Hi back to them and went upstairs (lesson on this below).
Review & Learnings
- I’m finding that in most situations I can approach regardless of if I’m fully “in state” or not now. It really all is in my head.
- Wing rules. Trackstar gave me his wing rules, which is: he intros, I say hi, engage the whole group and dominate the obstacles. Sounds fair to me, as I need to be more dominant up front in sets anyway.
- Annoyed at myself for not capitalising on IOIs and AIs. I most definitely got them tonight, I just wasn’t pushing them forward and capitalising on them. Especially with the two Asian girls at the end of the night, if I had said more than Hi and grabbed them I would probably be writing this FR tomorrow morning (my read was they wanted to get laid).
- What is less awkward is actually more awkward and what is more awkward is actually less awkward. All you need to open is to say Hi and talk about 3 dominant sentences (credit: Trackstar). It is fine to open a girl after you have been hovering for a minute. It’s better than not opening at all.
- Less talk, more kino, more focussed talk. All my conversations were pretty much everyday smalltalk tonight. I really, really, REALLY need to learn my redstack and start implementing that.
- Taking a long nap in the afternoon really helped keep my energy levels up at night.
- There is a reason that college kids pregame – it pumps their state up so that they are ON as soon as they get to the party. It doesn’t have to involve alcohol, but it’s still a good ritual.
- Using physical touch to engage people and keep them in conversation is the best way to go, especially if you don’t like screaming all the time.
- I felt like going out tonight I wasn’t really committing too much to anything. I did go out with the objective of “exploring and getting to know the different sorts of women that exist in SF”, and I guess I kinda achieved that. I ended up talking to some DP-style girls, alternative girls and generally girls I wouldn’t normally talk to. Next time I’m out at night I need to set more aggressive outcomes though, in accordance with learning my redstack and having stronger physical escalation.
- whim
